High End Gaming PCs Aren't Worth The Money (Unpopular Opinion)

by MickMack0123. Posted on Oct 17, 2020    0    42


I am a big PC gamer and until recently I have been playing on a shitty 500 Dollar prebuilt Dell PC. I built my first PC about a month ago for gaming with a budget of about 1000 dollars. I somewhat regret my decision as I have noticed no difference in performance and could honestly not tell the difference whether or not I was playing on high settings on high FPS on a 144hz monitor or if I was playing on low settings and low FPS. I honestly don't understand why anyone would drop more than 700 dollars on a pc just for pixels rearranged on a screen in a way they want it to. I mostly play competitive shooters and have not noticed any competitive gains or performed better in my games even on my new high end PC. I am pretty young and have great eyesight (According to my eye doctor) and can't tell the difference between high end and low end performance. The human eye cannot perceive reality at more than 60fps and most people can't even see in 4k. I think the reason people spend so much money on computer parts is because of the Placebo effect. I know this post will trigger a bunch of people who spend 2000+ on their PCs because they are in denial of the fact that all that time and money that went into their PC was really for nothing. I understand people use PCs for other things like streaming, video editing, and as workstations, and in those instances I view it as justifiable as their PC is more of an investment and having a better one helps them do their jobs but for gaming I think a high end PC is a ton of money used for something that is not very beneficial. I know I am likely going to get some hate for this as I am posting something somewhat controversial so please note this is just my opinion and I am willing to change it.


Comments

decanoic 1

I agree with the overall premise but only me personally and for an entirely different reason: the games I actually play the most are simple and my hardware is vast overkill for almost everything I play. I think most of your specific arguments are pretty much wrong. I'm old with shitty vision and I can easily tell the difference between 60hz and 144hz, as well as 1080p vs 4k.

Having said that, I also there is value in an aesthetic, expensive computer build. Or maybe that's just me as a try to justify spending money on a hardline watercooled system.

PlexasAideron 1

Spending more money on your PC wont make you actually good at games. I recommend not being a bad.

  MickMack0123 1

I understand that now, but many people told me that playing on higher fps gave me a distinct advantage when it didn't

ScavsOnlyForNoMoneys 1

You see frames earlier, it’s not a huge difference, but it’s enough to where it matters to skilled players.

TONKAHANAH 1

You sure you have your shit setup right? Also when you upgraded did you actually upgrade your GPU? Most people don't realize it but your GPU does the majority of working gaming.

Also assuming you do have a GPU plugged into the system I assume that you have the monitor plugged into said GPU? I see new PC Gamers do this all the time where they will plug their monitor into the onboard motherboard Graphics which will not provide much of any sort of Real Performance whatsoever.

If you put together a decent system that is an actual upgrade over your old Hardware you should see performance differences or maybe see a different doctor

  MickMack0123 1

Yes, I have a 2060 super and have an HDMI Cable plugged in from my pc to my monitor from my GPU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxNBiAV4UnM

Scruffiez 1

And BAM, we found your problem.

Youre 99% using the wrong cable and therefore cant see the difference.

Change to DP and set hz to 144...

Youre making a post about something youve never experienced. And yet you can say its not worth it?


Get. Some. Help.

AGoldenGuardian 1

Holy shit dude, how many times are you going to spam this video in this thread? I am starting to think that it's your video

  MickMack0123 1

No it’s just the easiest one to find and it’s not mine, It explained everything I wanted to say pretty well

YouSuckChangeMyMind 2

Maybe try a DisplayPort cable?

  MickMack0123 1

I don’t have one, I could get one but I don’t understand how that would help as my HDMI port seems to be working fine

YouSuckChangeMyMind 2

I think I’ve read somewhere that there are diff types of hdmi cables. If you have an older one it may not support higher refresh rates or higher resolutions?


I can try and look for an article about it but sometimes the cables do matter if you’re trying to up your frame rate or resolution


Edit: https://www.techhive.com/article/3330376/do-i-need-a-4k-hdmi-cable.html


“When pared down to the most basic information, the video resolution guidelines—as set by the HDMI Forum Technical Working Group that defines the specification—are:


Standard HDMI: Up to 720p or 1080i resolution at a 30Hz refresh rate
High Speed HDMI: Up to 4K resolution (including 1080p) at 30Hz
Premium High Speed HDMI: Up to 4K resolution with high dynamic range (HDR) at up to 60Hz
Ultra High Speed HDMI: Up to 10K resolution with HDR at a 120Hz refresh rate (4K video can refresh at up to 240Hz)”


So maybe you got a standard hdmi cable plugged in instead of a high speed type one?


Maybe try a diff hdmi or a DisplayPort cable if possible and report back! Good luck and I hope it fixes some of the issues

  MickMack0123 1

That might be the problem, don’t quite know how old my HDMI Ford is but I bet I could find a display port around the house or pick one up from BestBuy.

RectumPiercing 2

Even just after reading the title I can tell this is bait

try harder

MrSloppyPants 2

>The human eye cannot perceive reality at more than 60fps and most people can't even see in 4k.

Why are there people this stupid? I mean seriously. Firstly, there is zero, and I mean zero credible evidence for anything you've said, and secondly, all you need to do is see for yourself, and if you perceive no difference, then you get to save money. But your experience is not universal and does not apply to everyone, why do people not understand this?

  MickMack0123

Crazy how science is not credible evidence and I clarified that this was just my opinion, maybe try reading my post in it's entirety before blurting out incorrect info, crazy how the stupidest people think others are more stupid than themselves.

MrSloppyPants 1

"Science" LMAO.

Don't feed the trolls, I should have known better. Welcome to the blocked list.

-SammyP6- 3

if you cant tell the difference between 60fps and 144fps, either your monitor isn't configured properly, or something is wrong with your eyes. open windows 10 settings app -> system -> display ->advanced display settings -> display adapter properties -> monitor -> screen refresh rate. for whatever reason, many monitors default this to 60

its 100% not the placebo affect because my first experience with 144hz was using a random monitor at best buy. as soon as a moved the mouse across the desktop (I like touching stuff and it was one of those demo ones youre allowed to touch) I could tell it was much smoother. i checked and it was 144hz. hell, i can tell the difference between 60 and 90 fps. I know this because after a driver update, witcher 3 was capping at 60 instead of the 90ish i usually get. i opened the game, moved my mouse to turn around, instantly realsied it was 60, checked my fps to confirm, and rebooted my pc

  MickMack0123

My monitor is set correctly to the right settings, maybe I do just have terrible eyes if it is so obvious to you, however, I still feel like it is definitely not worth the extra money for me at least.

-SammyP6- 2

you do you. if its not worth it to you, switch to consoles or just get a cheap pc. but to many of us, the benefits are very noticeable and its not at all placebo

  MickMack0123 1

Thanks for being rational! It’s your choice if you want to buy it and I personally feel like it’s not worth it for me.

Steelruh 5

>The human eye


Here we go

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Steelruh 1

More spews for more views. Spew more bullshit, get more views. I can easily tell the difference between 1080p content and 4k content on my 4k TV.

Case dismissed, I can in fact see in 4k and above too

  MickMack0123 1

Check his sources if you don’t believe him, they are all linked in the description and this YouTuber is verified and well trusted, and you are obviously more credible than him. I mean a random person on reddit is OBVIOUSLY more reliable than a professor, but hey, the science and facts he is using in his video is just bullshit he is “spewing” for views.

-SammyP6- 1

i cant, but I also recognize i choose not to wear the glasses my doctor gave me

  MickMack0123 1

Not tryna judge your life decisions but you probably should wear those, I get my eye sight checked regularly at school and never was even recommended to get glasses

-SammyP6- 1

i see good enough and i dont like wearing them. i wear them when i drive to be safe, but something like playing games, it doesnt matter

CptArse 16

If you can't tell the difference between 144Hz and "low FPS" you either need to contact a doctor and get yourself checked, or get out of the noob trap of not setting your screen refresh rate to 144Hz and thinking 60Hz looks exactly like 144Hz.

Everything you said in the post is utterly ridiculous. If you can't tell the difference between maxed out graphics and low settings in an AAA game, that's a you-problem. Most other people have no problems telling the difference.

>The human eye cannot perceive reality at more than 60fps

Oh it's this old meme again...

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CptArse 5

Yeah, I'm not gonna watch 20 minutes of random youtuber who's video has 30% thumbs down to try to figure out what you're attempting to communicate.

Use your words to make your argument and timestamp relevant bits.

  MickMack0123

Look at 5:15 for FPS. He links his sources in the description you can look at if you don’t trust him. Most of the dislikes are probably people like you who are just trying to defend their decision of dropping insane amounts of money on something that really doesn’t matter. Also, he is not a “random” YouTuber, he is verified and does a lot of research into his videos. He is mostly considered to be reliable by most of his viewers.

AGoldenGuardian 1

Do you rely on other people to form your opinions for you? That seems like a less than optimal way to go through life.

  MickMack0123

Well yes and know, some debates can only really be argued based purely on morals and personal opinions, while not completely subjective, abortion and death penalty are ones that are usually not debated based off of statistics but more on morals, while on the other hand, things like economic inequality are based more on statistics, I usually use a lot more evidence and other people’s opinions for things like these.

CptArse 3

1) He's talking about something appearing to the screen for one frame. I can't think of any game where I need to consistently see something flash by for one frame in order to win.

2) The literal next sentence is: "Unless you know where to look, and you're waiting for it.", which immediately puts to bed the idea that you can't see the difference past 72Hz. And on top of that, I'm in control of the camera when playing. I can manipulate the camera such that I know exactly where the action is happening and put my focus on where it needs to be. This is not possible when watching movies where changes can happen anywhere on screen without your control.

3) And right after this he says: *"Your perceived framerate changes based on your arousal level. [...] you can see up to about 120 FPS". Again, according to your own video, people can see past 60FPS.

4) None of his sources seem to even corroborate his claims about framerates. If anything, he posted a link to an MMO Champion thread that is busting the 60Hz myth.

And those are just the things I care to spend time writing down. I won't even bother try to explain the effects of frame timing and motion blur.

Then we have videos like this which show clearly how much of a difference high framerate makes. If you seriously can't see that big of a difference, there's something wrong with you.

Oh and you don't actually need to be even gaming to tell the difference between 144Hz and 60Hz. Just wiggling mouse around between two screens of different framerates will show a jarring difference in smoothness.

  MickMack0123
  1. We are not talking about whether there is a need to perceive a frame to win, which if there were that would only further my argument

    2 . I don’t know what type of games you play but I very rarely tunnel vision on one point of my screen. I mostly play competitive shooters and always have to be thinking about my surroundings.

  2. Even if you were paying all of your attention on one point of the screen you would cap out at 120fps so there is no justification for buying a 144 hearts monitor or a gpu that goes above that.

  3. Did you even look at all of his sources? Some of them do make it seem pretty clear to me that you can’t see past the frame rates he mentioned.

    I don’t know how you wiggle your mouse but I am usually not paying an insane amount of attention that would raise my FPS viewing beyond 120fps

    Shroud, one of the best winery’s of all time, used a 60hz monitor when most pros were using 144hz monitors and is yet considered one of the best aimers of all time. If there is such a big difference between 60hz and 144hz, how would this be possible?
CptArse 2

>I don’t know what type of games you play but I very rarely tunnel vision on one point of my screen. I mostly play competitive shooters and always have to be thinking about my surroundings.

Well I was only global elite (highest rank) in CSGO back when I still played and got routinely matched against pro players on Faceit, but what the fuck do I know about how to be good at FPS. If you tell me proper preaiming requires you to focus on the entire screen, instead of only the crosshair, I guess I'm just wrong :))

>Even if you were paying all of your attention on one point of the screen you would cap out at 120fps so there is no justification for buying a 144 hearts monitor or a gpu that goes above that.

So first of all, stop moving the goalposts. You said the human eye can't see past 60Hz, that's just wrong.

Secondly, you might want to look up the concept of frame timing if you think extra frames above your monitor's refresh rate won't change anything. Like I said, I'm not gonna waste my time trying to explain this to you when you can't even get the basics straight yet.

>Did you even look at all of his sources? Some of them do make it seem pretty clear to me that you can’t see past the frame rates he mentioned.

I did. Of course, you could've just linked and quoted the source which proves me wrong.

E:

>Shroud, one of the best winery’s of all time, used a 60hz monitor when most pros were using 144hz monitors and is yet considered one of the best aimers of all time. If there is such a big difference between 60hz and 144hz, how would this be possible?

This is an easy one: because no one claimed that buying 144Hz monitor makes you suddenly good at aiming! Go make your strawman arguments somewhere else, please.

StayPhilthy 10

Is your monitor set to 144hz in windows settings? Most people see the difference between 60 and 144.

  MickMack0123 1

Yeah, maybe I am just blind and my eyes are really slow

halflucids 12

Troll post.